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WW1 Royal Navy 1915 ‘Mesopotamia/Tigris River’, Distinguished Service Medal group

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WW1 Royal Navy 1915 ‘Mesopotamia/Tigris River’, Distinguished Service Medal group attributed to Signaller J. B. Murray, who was twice mentioned, who further took part in the V.C. action with H.M.S. Comet/Dunster Force and finished the war serving in Russia against the Bolsheviks.Distinguished Service Medal (G.V.R), impressed named J8870. J.MURRAY, SIGN H.M.S. COMET; Naval General Service 1915-62, one clasp, PERSIAN GULF 1909-1914, impressed named J8870. J.MURRAY. SIG. H.M.S MASHONA; 1914-15 Star, impressed named J.8870. J.MURRAY. D.S.M. SIG.R.N.; British War and Victory Medals, impressed named J.8870. J.MURRAY. L.SIG. R.N. Medals swing mounted as worn & come with corresponding miniatures and single Russian Order of St. George, original paperwork & medal rolls, London Gazette entry, diary; passport; certificate of competency second mate 1920. Also included are a Defence Medal 1939-45, un named (possibly Murray’s), as well as his brother’s British War Medal, impressed named 6537 CPL.J.B.MURRAY. SCO.RIF.; with copies of M.I.C. medal rolls, C.W.G.C. certificate, extracts from the book ‘5th Battalion, THE CAMERONIANS 1914-1918’ covering the attack at High Woods.John Boyd Murray was born in Glasgow 10/9/1894. Joined the Royal Navy 26/6/1910 Boy II Class, serving on H.M.S. Ganges, Vivid, H.M.S. King Alfred 3/9/1911 – 11/2/1913, now promoted to Signalman. H.M.S. Fox 4/4/1913 – 30/7/1914 (East Indies Station), H.M.S. Odin, but served with the armed launch HMS Mashona) 31/7/14 – 30/9/14, H.M.S. Espiegle (Mashona & Comet) 1/10/14-31/7/15, H.M.S. Clio (Comet) 1/8/15-5/11/15, H.M.S. Clio 6/11/15-12/2/16, H.M.S. Espiegle 13/2/16-14/3/16, H.M.S. Albert (Waterfly) 15/3/16-8/5/16, H.M.S. Dalhousie 9/5/16-23/4/1918, H.M.S. Mantis (River Gunboat, Insect-class) 4/8/18-31/12/18.  ? (Venture)1/1/19-20/5/19. H.M.S. Vivid 21/5/19-7/1/20. To Royal Fleet Reserve 8/1/20 – 14/10/20. Died 9/1/21964.Murray was awarded his Distinguished Service Medal for the operations on the Tigris River 3/6/15. “John. B. Murray O.N.J.8870, signaller on the Comet has also shown himself and exceptionally reliable man both at Amara and on another occasion viz. Murray behaved with great Gallantry signalling from an exposed position in H.M.S Comet when under shell fire at Ahwaz”.The miniature Russian Order of St George is an intriguing mystery of a possible award, which is worthy of further research.On Tuesday 28th September H.M.S. Comet, an armed paddle launch tug and two iron barges at the centre appeared to prevent the final capture of Kut. Comet (Lt-Cdr Cookson, on the books of sloop Clio), Shaitan and Sumana steamed up under heavy rifle and machine gun fire, Comet went ahead to ram the dhow, failed to break through, gunfire also failed, Lt-Cdr Cookson jumped onto the dhow with an axe to try to cut the wire hawsers securing her, was riddled with bullets from close-range and killed, no other lives lost. The gunboats sank the dhow with gunfire and all retired. Early next day, the Turks had gone, the boom was dismantled and Kut occupied. Lt-Cdr Edgar Christopher Cookson DSO was posthumously awarded the Victoria Cross.Murray was one of these men of Dunster force (see below) and his diary covers this period. A signal from Lt Commander R.Harrison to R.N.O Baku. ‘Leading Signalman John Murray D.S.M J8870. The above-named rating has served under my command on board H.M.S. Mantis in Mesopotamia during the expedition across Persia, at the defence and evacuation of Baku and on-board H.M.S. Venture in Caspian Sea between 24th April 1918 and 18th May 1919. From my close personal observation of Leading Signalman Murray both in action and under very trying conditions of service I am of the opinion that he has all the qualities likely to fit him for the rank of commissioned officer and strongly recommend his advancement’.Dunster force was a naval element under Commodore Norris accompanied the force. The task they were given was vague. They were to obtain control of the Caspian Sea and merchant shipping therein in order to support the force in Baku and to prevent the Turks from crossing to Krasnovodsk and advancing from there. To gain military control of the Caspian Sea, a Royal Navy party of 5 officers, 86 ratings and 12 guns suitable for mounting on the Caspian steamers was despatched to Enzeli from Baghdad under the command of Commodore D.T. Norris.A rare group to a “sailor in the desert”. During WW1 he fought the Turks in Mesopotamia and the Bolsheviks in the Caspian Sea. His history is well documented and his diary for the time in Dunster force only enhances the desirability of the group.James Boyd Murray (younger brother of John Murray) born 28/8/1896 Barony, Glasgow. Landed France 5/11/1914 with the 5th Bn Cameronians. Regimental # 6537, it is highly probable that he was a pre-war Territorial. Killed in action 20/7/1917 at High Woods on the Somme. In this action the battalion lost 6 Officers K.I.A., 12 W.I.A. 19 Other ranks K.I.A., 153 W.I.A. and 217 M.I.A. James Murray has no known grave and is remembered at the Thiepval Memorial.
WW1 Royal Navy 1915 ‘Mesopotamia/Tigris River’, Distinguished Service Medal group attributed to Signaller J. B. Murray, who was twice mentioned, who further took part in the V.C. action with H.M.S. Comet/Dunster Force and finished the war serving in Russia against the Bolsheviks.Distinguished Service Medal (G.V.R), impressed named J8870. J.MURRAY, SIGN H.M.S. COMET; Naval General Service 1915-62, one clasp, PERSIAN GULF 1909-1914, impressed named J8870. J.MURRAY. SIG. H.M.S MASHONA; 1914-15 Star, impressed named J.8870. J.MURRAY. D.S.M. SIG.R.N.; British War and Victory Medals, impressed named J.8870. J.MURRAY. L.SIG. R.N. Medals swing mounted as worn & come with corresponding miniatures and single Russian Order of St. George, original paperwork & medal rolls, London Gazette entry, diary; passport; certificate of competency second mate 1920. Also included are a Defence Medal 1939-45, un named (possibly Murray’s), as well as his brother’s British War Medal, impressed named 6537 CPL.J.B.MURRAY. SCO.RIF.; with copies of M.I.C. medal rolls, C.W.G.C. certificate, extracts from the book ‘5th Battalion, THE CAMERONIANS 1914-1918’ covering the attack at High Woods.John Boyd Murray was born in Glasgow 10/9/1894. Joined the Royal Navy 26/6/1910 Boy II Class, serving on H.M.S. Ganges, Vivid, H.M.S. King Alfred 3/9/1911 – 11/2/1913, now promoted to Signalman. H.M.S. Fox 4/4/1913 – 30/7/1914 (East Indies Station), H.M.S. Odin, but served with the armed launch HMS Mashona) 31/7/14 – 30/9/14, H.M.S. Espiegle (Mashona & Comet) 1/10/14-31/7/15, H.M.S. Clio (Comet) 1/8/15-5/11/15, H.M.S. Clio 6/11/15-12/2/16, H.M.S. Espiegle 13/2/16-14/3/16, H.M.S. Albert (Waterfly) 15/3/16-8/5/16, H.M.S. Dalhousie 9/5/16-23/4/1918, H.M.S. Mantis (River Gunboat, Insect-class) 4/8/18-31/12/18.  ? (Venture)1/1/19-20/5/19. H.M.S. Vivid 21/5/19-7/1/20. To Royal Fleet Reserve 8/1/20 – 14/10/20. Died 9/1/21964.Murray was awarded his Distinguished Service Medal for the operations on the Tigris River 3/6/15. “John. B. Murray O.N.J.8870, signaller on the Comet has also shown himself and exceptionally reliable man both at Amara and on another occasion viz. Murray behaved with great Gallantry signalling from an exposed position in H.M.S Comet when under shell fire at Ahwaz”.The miniature Russian Order of St George is an intriguing mystery of a possible award, which is worthy of further research.On Tuesday 28th September H.M.S. Comet, an armed paddle launch tug and two iron barges at the centre appeared to prevent the final capture of Kut. Comet (Lt-Cdr Cookson, on the books of sloop Clio), Shaitan and Sumana steamed up under heavy rifle and machine gun fire, Comet went ahead to ram the dhow, failed to break through, gunfire also failed, Lt-Cdr Cookson jumped onto the dhow with an axe to try to cut the wire hawsers securing her, was riddled with bullets from close-range and killed, no other lives lost. The gunboats sank the dhow with gunfire and all retired. Early next day, the Turks had gone, the boom was dismantled and Kut occupied. Lt-Cdr Edgar Christopher Cookson DSO was posthumously awarded the Victoria Cross.Murray was one of these men of Dunster force (see below) and his diary covers this period. A signal from Lt Commander R.Harrison to R.N.O Baku. ‘Leading Signalman John Murray D.S.M J8870. The above-named rating has served under my command on board H.M.S. Mantis in Mesopotamia during the expedition across Persia, at the defence and evacuation of Baku and on-board H.M.S. Venture in Caspian Sea between 24th April 1918 and 18th May 1919. From my close personal observation of Leading Signalman Murray both in action and under very trying conditions of service I am of the opinion that he has all the qualities likely to fit him for the rank of commissioned officer and strongly recommend his advancement’.Dunster force was a naval element under Commodore Norris accompanied the force. The task they were given was vague. They were to obtain control of the Caspian Sea and merchant shipping therein in order to support the force in Baku and to prevent the Turks from crossing to Krasnovodsk and advancing from there. To gain military control of the Caspian Sea, a Royal Navy party of 5 officers, 86 ratings and 12 guns suitable for mounting on the Caspian steamers was despatched to Enzeli from Baghdad under the command of Commodore D.T. Norris.A rare group to a “sailor in the desert”. During WW1 he fought the Turks in Mesopotamia and the Bolsheviks in the Caspian Sea. His history is well documented and his diary for the time in Dunster force only enhances the desirability of the group.James Boyd Murray (younger brother of John Murray) born 28/8/1896 Barony, Glasgow. Landed France 5/11/1914 with the 5th Bn Cameronians. Regimental # 6537, it is highly probable that he was a pre-war Territorial. Killed in action 20/7/1917 at High Woods on the Somme. In this action the battalion lost 6 Officers K.I.A., 12 W.I.A. 19 Other ranks K.I.A., 153 W.I.A. and 217 M.I.A. James Murray has no known grave and is remembered at the Thiepval Memorial.

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(e) Charge interest at 10% per annum above Commonwealth Bank of Australia's Base Rate from the Payment Date to the date that the Purchase Price is received in cleared funds;

(f) Re-sell the lot by auction or privately, with estimates and reserves at JB Military Antiques discretion, in which case the Buyer will be liable for any shortfall between the original Purchase Price and the amount achieved on re-sale, including all costs incurred in such re-sale;

(g) Exercise a lien over any Buyer's Property in JB Military Antiques possession, applying the sale proceeds to any amounts owed by the Buyer to JB Military Antiques. JB Military Antiques shall give the Buyer 14 days written notice before exercising such lien;

(h) Commence legal proceedings to recover the Purchase Price for the lot, plus interest and legal costs. Disclose the Buyer's details to the Seller to enable the Seller to commence legal proceedings.

10. Failure to collect purchases

(a) If the Buyer pays the Purchase Price but does not collect the lot within 20 working

days of the auction, the lot will be stored at the Buyer's expense and risk at JB Military Antiques premises or in independent storage.

(b) If a lot is paid for but uncollected within 6 months of the auction, following 60 days written notice to the Buyer, JB Military Antiques will re-sell the lot by auction or privately, with estimates and reserves at JB Military Antiques discretion. The sale proceeds, less all JB Military Antiques costs, will be forfeited unless collected by the Buyer within 2 years of the original auction.

11. Data Protection

(a) JB Military Antiques will use information supplied by Bidders or otherwise obtained lawfully by JB Military Antiques for the provision of auction related services, client administration, marketing and as otherwise required by law.

(b) By agreeing to these Conditions of Sale, the Bidder agrees to the processing of their personal information and to the disclosure of such information to third parties world-wide for the purposes outlined in Condition 11(a) and to Sellers as per Condition 9.

12. Miscellaneous

(a) All images of lots, catalogue descriptions and all other materials produced by JB Military Antiques are the copyright of JB Military Antiques.

(b) These Conditions of Sale are not assignable by any Buyer without JB Military Antiques prior written consent, but are binding on Bidders' successors, assigns and representatives.

(c) The materials listed in Condition 1(a) set out the entire agreement between the parties.

(d) If any part of these Conditions of Sale be held unenforceable, the remaining parts shall remain in full force and effect.

(e) These Conditions of Sale shall be interpreted in accordance with Australian Law, under the exclusive jurisdiction of the Australian Courts, in favour of JB Military Antiques.

JB Military Antiques Authenticity Guarantee

If JB Military Antiques sells an item of Property which is later shown to be a

"Counterfeit", subject to the terms below JB Military Antiques will rescind the sale and refund the Buyer the total amount paid by the Buyer to JB Military Antiques for that Property, up to a maximum of the Purchase Price.

The Guarantee lasts for 90 days after the date of the relevant auction, is for the benefit of the Buyer only and is non-transferable. "Counterfeit" means an item of Property that in JB Military Antiques reasonable opinion is an imitation created with the intent to deceive over the authorship, origin, date, age, period, culture or source, where the correct description of such matters is not included in the catalogue description for the Property.

Property shall not be considered Counterfeit solely because of any damage and/or restoration and/or modification work (including, but not limited to, traces of mounting, tooling or repatinating). Please note that this Guarantee does not apply if either the catalogue description was in accordance with the generally accepted opinions of scholars and experts at the date of the sale, or the catalogue description indicated that there was a conflict of such opinions; or the only method of establishing at the date of the sale that the item was a Counterfeit would have been by means of processes not then generally available or accepted, unreasonably expensive or impractical; or likely to have caused damage to or loss in value to the Property (in JB Military Antiques opinion).

To claim under this Guarantee, the Buyer must notify JB Military Antiques. in writing within one (1) month of receiving any information that causes the Buyer to question the authenticity or attribution of the Property, specifying the lot number, date of the auction at which it was purchased and the reasons why it is believed to be Counterfeit; and return the Property to JB Military Antiques in the same/unaltered condition as at the date of sale and be able to transfer good title in the Property, free from any third party claims arising after the date of the sale.

JB Military Antiques has discretion to waive any of the above requirements. JB Military Antiques requires the Buyer to obtain at the Buyer's cost the reports of two independent and recognised experts in the relevant field and acceptable to JB Military Antiques. These experts will have physically examined the item in question, meaning photographs and email exchange only is not an acceptable form of expert judgement. JB Military Antiques shall not be bound by any reports produced by the Buyer, and reserves the right to seek additional expert advice at its own expense. In the event JB Military Antiques decides to rescind the sale under this Guarantee, it may refund to the Buyer the reasonable costs of up to two mutually approved independent expert reports, provided always that the costs of such reports have been approved in advance and in writing by JB Military Antiques.

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