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c.1941/2 Indian 741B Scout, 500 cc. Registration number JUP 890. Frame number 741.25078. Engine

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c.1941/2 Indian 741B Scout, 500 cc. Registration number JUP 890. Frame number 741.25078. Engine number GDA 25078.
Indian motorcycles were originally produced from 1901 to 1953 in Springfield, Massachusetts by the Hendee Manufacturing Company, changing it to the Indian Motorcycle Manufacturing Company in 1928.
The Indian factory team acquired legendary status after taking the first three places in the 1911 Isle of Man Tourist Trophy. During the first decade of the 1900s, Indian became the largest motorcycle manufacturer in the world, but lost this title after WWI as the US entered the conflict, Indian sold most of its Powerplus line in 1917 and 1918 to the government, starving its network of dealers, this blow to the domestic market led to a loss of support for the brand from it never recovered. While the motorcycles were popular in the military, post-war demand was then taken up by other manufacturers to whom many of the previously loyal Indian dealers turned.
As WWII loomed, the US military set about drawing up specifications for a useful, universal motorcycle, and put its construction out for bid. Of the bids submitted Harley Davidson won with the WLA 750 cc as the Indian's Scout 640 (750 cc) was too heavy and expensive. They had more success with the 741 based on the civilian Thirty-Fifty model. The US Army wanted 45 cubic inches, but this Indian was but 30.5 cubic inches, or 500cc. It was much closer in capacity to the British machines. What 741 production there was went instead to allied forces in Canada and Great Britain where the 741 proved somewhat successful. But Harley riders in the military had difficulty with the Indian's foot clutch operated with the heel; Harley's required the toe.
Quoted military Indian production was close to 10,000 units in 1942, the vast majority for US Army or use by allies. WW II military sales did nothing for Indian's dire straights. In fact, most agree that Indian's total focus on building military bikes lead them to fully abandon their dealers, again, who needed parts for the few police and civilian bikes still being ridden in America. When the War was over, and Ralph Rogers took control, their dealer base had diminished, and another nail was in the coffin of the company that closed in 1953.
Much rarer than the WLA this 741, believed to have been built in 1941 by the engine number, was first registered on the 27th January 1949, one presumes this is when it left military service (UK ex military machine are similarly registered when they first appear on the civilian marketplace) with a sidecar attached and in 1952 was owned by William"Jackson of Darlington. He sold it to Alec Graham (not recorded on the R.F.60) and our vendors father, also of Darlington, bought it from him in June 1973, for £150, by which time the side car had been removed. There is an MOT from 1974 stating the mileage at 27,968. At this time he restored it but really used it and in 1992 it passed to our vendor.
At this time he made it roadworthy and had it MOT'd in 1992 with a mileage of 27,986. It was occasionally ridden and last taxed in 1995, the mileage today is 28,?49. It now has a wonderful patina of an "Oily rag" machine and will need recommissioning before road use.
Sold with the R.F.60, no V5 (but recorded with DVLA), two MOT's, letters and other paperwork.
c.1941/2 Indian 741B Scout, 500 cc. Registration number JUP 890. Frame number 741.25078. Engine number GDA 25078.
Indian motorcycles were originally produced from 1901 to 1953 in Springfield, Massachusetts by the Hendee Manufacturing Company, changing it to the Indian Motorcycle Manufacturing Company in 1928.
The Indian factory team acquired legendary status after taking the first three places in the 1911 Isle of Man Tourist Trophy. During the first decade of the 1900s, Indian became the largest motorcycle manufacturer in the world, but lost this title after WWI as the US entered the conflict, Indian sold most of its Powerplus line in 1917 and 1918 to the government, starving its network of dealers, this blow to the domestic market led to a loss of support for the brand from it never recovered. While the motorcycles were popular in the military, post-war demand was then taken up by other manufacturers to whom many of the previously loyal Indian dealers turned.
As WWII loomed, the US military set about drawing up specifications for a useful, universal motorcycle, and put its construction out for bid. Of the bids submitted Harley Davidson won with the WLA 750 cc as the Indian's Scout 640 (750 cc) was too heavy and expensive. They had more success with the 741 based on the civilian Thirty-Fifty model. The US Army wanted 45 cubic inches, but this Indian was but 30.5 cubic inches, or 500cc. It was much closer in capacity to the British machines. What 741 production there was went instead to allied forces in Canada and Great Britain where the 741 proved somewhat successful. But Harley riders in the military had difficulty with the Indian's foot clutch operated with the heel; Harley's required the toe.
Quoted military Indian production was close to 10,000 units in 1942, the vast majority for US Army or use by allies. WW II military sales did nothing for Indian's dire straights. In fact, most agree that Indian's total focus on building military bikes lead them to fully abandon their dealers, again, who needed parts for the few police and civilian bikes still being ridden in America. When the War was over, and Ralph Rogers took control, their dealer base had diminished, and another nail was in the coffin of the company that closed in 1953.
Much rarer than the WLA this 741, believed to have been built in 1941 by the engine number, was first registered on the 27th January 1949, one presumes this is when it left military service (UK ex military machine are similarly registered when they first appear on the civilian marketplace) with a sidecar attached and in 1952 was owned by William"Jackson of Darlington. He sold it to Alec Graham (not recorded on the R.F.60) and our vendors father, also of Darlington, bought it from him in June 1973, for £150, by which time the side car had been removed. There is an MOT from 1974 stating the mileage at 27,968. At this time he restored it but really used it and in 1992 it passed to our vendor.
At this time he made it roadworthy and had it MOT'd in 1992 with a mileage of 27,986. It was occasionally ridden and last taxed in 1995, the mileage today is 28,?49. It now has a wonderful patina of an "Oily rag" machine and will need recommissioning before road use.
Sold with the R.F.60, no V5 (but recorded with DVLA), two MOT's, letters and other paperwork.

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